gha111
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   Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 11:23 |
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Don, I might be kinda new to this biplane stuff, but I have not heard of running down the runway on ONE wheel. Budd Davisson says that fast taxi is not a good idea, and that is on TWO wheels, so just what was the purpose of one wheel? I assume it's a confidence builder, but how does that relate to a narrow runway? I'd sure like to hear about the reason behind it and how the instructor talked you into it. Garry
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darylat8750
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Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 14:02 |
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" running down the runway on one wheel and keeping the
plane centered. I know that this was talked about earlier and some
noted that was not a good idea but after I was shown how and felt the
correct input it was not hard and gave me the same confidence of control
that I felt in my training in the Citrabria."
The risk to reward ratio is pretty high on this move.
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John827
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Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 16:24 |
Garry,
This is actually a great exercise for advanced training. Crosswind wheel landings require this technique. You have heard it said before, "You fly a taildragger all the way until it is in the chocks". This exercise teaches coordinated control in all 3 axis. This level of control is especially required in cross winds and on narrow runways during the roll-out and take-off. It is always better to practice maneuvers in controlled conditions, before you need to do it for real. For the novice, I suggest getting with a good tail wheel instructor and get some dual before any home schooling.
This is NOT recommended for planes that are not recommended for wheel landings. An Acrosport was born to 3-point or wheel on without any fuss.
John
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dcrowe1
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Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 16:44 |
Gary,
I was shown this exercise two times, the first time when I was getting my tail wheel endorsement in a Citabria and the second time last Saturday in my ASII.
I was told that it shows you how to control the aircraft and the condition in which you can get into if needed. Brad told me that one time he had a tire go flat while in the air, he had to land on the good tire and keep the flat one off the ground until the wing lost lift and would not hold it off the ground any longer. He got the plane down and did not ground loop.
Secondly, he also told me that, if I was to get into a strong crosswind condition I might need to use the technique to get the plane down in one piece, you get the wheel on the up wind side of the plane on the ground and keep the plane tracking down the runway with the rudder.
The subject was talked about in one of my other posts and I was told that this exercise was not a good idea, I agree that to try this without proper supervision like I did the first time was not a smart thing. I tried it once and saw how easily I could make a mess of a nice plane and stopped.
But I must admit that I was skeptical, but after I was shown how and that you can do the exercise, I was able to control the plane and I made the best landings I could expect to make. The last five or six landings I made were some of the slickest that could be made, I felt in control and made the proper adjustments to both thrust and elevator to keep ahead of the plane with no bounce. Where once I was thinking that I had purchased more airplane than I could handle, I now can't wait to get back in the air!
Brad told me that I have to fly the plane and not let the plane fly me around.
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darylat8750
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Posted: Jul/14/2010 at 16:49 |
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"I have to fly the plane and not let the plane fly me
around."
There is the key to flight.
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gha111
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Posted: Jul/19/2010 at 18:12 |
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Don, After reading the last few posts again, maybe we are having what the Warden in 'Kool Hand Luke' said.....a failure to communicate. I was thinking that what you were doing was a fast taxi and then bringing the plane up on one wheel during the fast taxi. Are you taking about wheel landing on one wheel and running down the runway that way?? If so, I've got no problem with that at all. Guys that know their bird well do that and then roll over to the other wheel just for drill. (No crosswind of course). Please....tell me I had it wrong. Garry
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dcrowe1
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Posted: Jul/20/2010 at 04:59 |
What I was shown was while travailing down the runway at a speed fast enough to fly the tail, using the rudder and ailerons how to control the plane by getting one tire off the ground. I was able to control both my direction and the bank of the wings.
Two times I started from the takeoff position and many other times, I landed 3-point, then added enough power to get the tail off and get one wing up.
I flew 2.5 hours on Sunday, I made over ten landings and I feel that I can control my plane better and I am having a ball flying!
To try this without proper supervision would be a mistake, I tried this once and could have made a mess of things but being shown how and practice the exercise, it makes it easier to land in a cross wind and gives one confidence knowing what you can do if needed.
Don
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