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Who can be the "Repairman" for an E-AB aircraft? The regulations say "the primary builder", but does not absolutely define it. As I recall the reg. then suggests that the repairman should have the knowledge and skill to inspect and maintain the aircraft and the builder is the one who would likely have such skill.
I have now completed two E-AB aircraft started by others. With the first one I spoke to the inspector at both the MIDO and the FSDO about the issue and they agree that I had done sufficient work in the process to obtain the repairman certificate for my Spezio Tu-holer even though another person had started the project and I put his name down as the "manufacturer".
I did the same thing with the AD2. Based on my previous discussions I could have put myself down as the manufacturer of my AD2 but for future possible liability reasons I preferred not to have my name on the data plate. BTW, there have been four builders of the AD2.
I recently contacted my FSDO to obtain my repairman certificate. The inspector assigned to me called last week and since they were coming to western Md. this week to survey the airports anyway, he could meet me at the airport and issue my temporary certificate rather than me going to Baltimore. GREAT! He then asked me the make, model, ser# etc.?
When I said the "manufacturer" was the person who started the project it only took him 2 sec. to say he could not issue me the certificate. As our discussion proceeded he also stated that only the person who did " 51%" or more could obtain the certificate. I suggested he was confusing the requirement that 51% of the aircraft must have been completed by an amateur in order to obtain an E-AB AWC and that several individuals might contribute to that 51%. We had a rather long discussion. I told him what I had completed and I felt that I had the skills required. I also suggested he maybe consider an airplane completed by a trade school where over several years over 100 persons might have been involved in the build and the repairman certificate had been given to the instructor even though he might not have even turned a wrench?(this is actually rather common...at least in the past) He said he would have to call the certification branch in Ok. City and get back to me. Frankly I was not optimistic considering recent FAA CYA.......
Yesterday afternoon he called back and said he had checked with FAA headquarters and they said "no problem" and that he would meet me at 1W3 after lunch today and exchange my airman certificate application for my temp. certificate. He wants to see my build log and maybe ask me a few questions.
YMMV
Jack
Who can be the "Repairman" for an E-AB aircraft? The regulations say "the primary builder", but does not absolutely define it. As I recall the reg. then suggests that the repairman should have the knowledge and skill to inspect and maintain the aircraft and the builder is the one who would likely have such skill.
I have now completed two E-AB aircraft started by others. With the first one I spoke to the inspector at both the MIDO and the FSDO about the issue and they agree that I had done sufficient work in the process to obtain the repairman certificate for my Spezio Tu-holer even though another person had started the project and I put his name down as the "manufacturer".
I did the same thing with the AD2. Based on my previous discussions I could have put myself down as the manufacturer of my AD2 but for future possible liability reasons I preferred not to have my name on the data plate. BTW, there have been four builders of the AD2.
I recently contacted my FSDO to obtain my repairman certificate. The inspector assigned to me called last week and since they were coming to western Md. this week to survey the airports anyway, he could meet me at the airport and issue my temporary certificate rather than me going to Baltimore. GREAT! He then asked me the make, model, ser# etc.?
When I said the "manufacturer" was the person who started the project it only took him 2 sec. to say he could not issue me the certificate. As our discussion proceeded he also stated that only the person who did " 51%" or more could obtain the certificate. I suggested he was confusing the requirement that 51% of the aircraft must have been completed by an amateur in order to obtain an E-AB AWC and that several individuals might contribute to that 51%. We had a rather long discussion. I told him what I had completed and I felt that I had the skills required. I also suggested he maybe consider an airplane completed by a trade school where over several years over 100 persons might have been involved in the build and the repairman certificate had been given to the instructor even though he might not have even turned a wrench?(this is actually rather common...at least in the past) He said he would have to call the certification branch in Ok. City and get back to me. Frankly I was not optimistic considering recent FAA CYA.......
Yesterday afternoon he called back and said he had checked with FAA headquarters and they said "no problem" and that he would meet me at 1W3 after lunch today and exchange my airman certificate application for my temp. certificate. He wants to see my build log and maybe ask me a few questions.
YMMV
Jack
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